listen, the administration, i don't know president obama but the administration knew that it was false what they were saying was false. >> how could president obama not know if this is signature? >> i don't know. let me tell you something. sebelius knew. she. >> she had to know. >> her organization passed the regulations that made the grandfathering promise completely empty. so she knew that people were going to lose their plans. they were going to lose them by the millions. picture, this you get kicked off of your plan, now you have got to go on a web site that doesn't work, sit there for hours and perhaps days trying to get. >> trying to figure out where the plan. >> no choice to do it because you have got kids. you have health issues. you have to work. you have to do it. you log on and finally get through after all the nonsense. and now, now, up to 30% of the people who have done that, think they have insurance and they rectified it and they haven't. >> no, because the insurance companies haven't processed their applications. another. it's messing up all these forms and now when tho